That is fantastic news, fulltimestudent! Good for you and all the best!
LoisLane
i've decided to graduate at the end of this year (2015).
i need 69 credit points to graduate successfully at my university, and i already have about 80. i also have to write a capstone essay (of 5000 words) on a ancient history topic.
in addition, i'm doing two other 5000 word research essays this year.
That is fantastic news, fulltimestudent! Good for you and all the best!
LoisLane
check this out.
got this bound volume from my dad.. .
I placed that magazine, while I was, of course, pioneering. and
LL
in my wanderings around the net i have discovered some very interesting things.
this particular piece is based on a training session for colporteurs during the believers in the atonement sacrifice of christ convention held in ashbury park new jersey july 22-29, 1906. .
i will bold some of their comments that i found interesting and will add my comments in red.
I am speechless. This is sickening. A true look behind the 'Wizard's dirty curtain'.
LL
ive not seen him on this new site--or do i need new specs.?
its usually hard to miss the old bugger
It is so good to see you again OUTLAW! You have been missed!
LL
PS Are the smiley face icons and the fellow tooting his horn gone or do I just not know how to steer around the new options?
my name is louie and i'm seeking some help regarding a paper i need to write for a class.
it is meant to be an individual study project regarding a faith that is different from your own and intrigues you.
what i am asking is for someone who is willing to answer 10-15 questions regarding their faith.
Hello Religious Quest,
Fred Franz, who was Vice President of The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society aka Jehovah's Witnesses, at the time I am relating, (later to become the President of WTBTS) told a trusted friend that when he was visiting your church, The Vatican in Rome, he gathered his group of JW's together and said, "Let's bow our heads in prayer". Then he said everyone was a bit puzzled that Fred wanted to say a prayer in your Church, but okay, it was Fred Franz, the VP of all JW's worldwide. After everyone had bowed their heads, he said, "God damn this place to hell". Everyone with him said amen out loud, then they all started laughing.
I was raised as one of JW's. I was taught to hate Catholics, no, not from my parents, but from the WT Society through their public talks and public literature.
I was also taught to hate homosexuals, again, not from my parents, but through the WT Society aka JW.org, through their public talks and through their public literature.
I was taught, through indoctrination by the WT aka JW.org not to date unbelievers. To date or marry an unbeliever was considered to be bad and evil.
I was taught that to please God, that I was to be a virgin on my wedding night. To do otherwise, might condemn me to die at the fearful Armageddon.
I was taught that God hates a divorcing and that only "spiritually weak" JW's sought a divorce from Caesar's Court's.
I was taught that as a female, I had to be in subjection to all baptized males, especially my husband. I was there to serve him.
At the age of 62, separated from my JW (Elder) husband, I secretly read the forbidden book, Crisis of Conscience by former JW governing body member Ray Franz. I read through the night and the next morning at 5AM, LoisLane was out.
LoisLane
PS I too, have visited The Vatican. It is a beautiful jewel, inside and out. I paid the ticket price to go down into the basement to look at some of the past Pope's robes, jewelry, shoes, hats, golden drinking cups, all encrusted in big precious jewels, etc. It was a fabulous display of wealth. The whole Vatican country was a huge display of Catholic wealth. It hurt me to think I had traveled to 3rd world countries, which were Catholic controlled ones, and to see so much poverty among the people and yet the Priests, in their finery, were telling their 'people' to buy candles, and to give the Church money to pray for their loved ones to get out of the man made up purgatory (which was just one way to fool the humble people into giving up their hard earned cash). In some areas, you have to pay yearly for your loved ones in their Catholic church controlled cemeteries. If you don't keep up your yearly payment, out comes the grave, and the Church gets it ready for the next paying "customer".
Now that I am out of JW.org and all religions, I am so happy every day. Even though WT aka JW.org took a huge slice of my life, what time I have left, is my own. I have never felt such peace and happiness, as I do now.
I wish you well in your life's journey.
LL
an odd letter was read at last nights' meeting.
it was in regards to a special campaign for next year arranged by the governing body to go and preach in israel.
the call is going out to anybody that speaks hebrew and english.
The letter says that the "Service Committee" of the GB has agreed to this insanity.
They say it is a relative safe country, and that single sisters should/may pair up with another single sister and go. They are hoping for a minimum of 2 weeks, to 3 months. (Tourist Visa).
I have been to Israel. I would never go again. I don't like gun carrying army personnel going through all of my things at every checkpoint. And there are many checkpoints. JW.org is trying to pretend this could be a carefree, holiday trip for single women. It is not.
LL
my girlfriend's dad who is 82 lost his second wife to cancer last october.
while she was dying, he secretly was seeing another woman, in her 60s.
long story short, a month after the wife's death, they both moved in together and in early june , they secretly got married.
With just a few sentences, I don't know quite what to think...
There was a brother. His wife died after 50 plus years of marriage. One daughter. He went on vacation alone, went to the KHall , met a younger sister. He was 80. She about 67. She gave him the eye. They got married quickly. From the beginning she had an agenda. Get his property, his money and pensions. All of it. In 3 years he was dead. A quick funeral, no obituary, cremated, she was packed, her many children came and drove the moving truck, and mom was outta there. His only child inherited absolutely nothing, not even her mother's wedding china. Nothing. The new Mrs. had packed everything up immediately, put the house up for sale and moved across country.
I met her soon after they were married. The room was full of his friends. She was not interested in knowing any of us. She acted like a stuck up bit$h. After seeing, and comprehending, she was in the marriage for herself and what she could get out of him, literally, I purposely sat beside her and graciously, pointed out to her who was who and what they meant to her new husband and shared with her, that we were all interested in helping her have a long and happy marriage, and that we were all welcoming her to 'the family'. Not interested.
Gold digger? I would most certainly say yes.
LL
faders: why do we bother staying in?.
we cling to some false hope that people we love will accept us despite our not believing, even though its as much a fairytale as the dogmas based on untruths.. ive never been anything but a good friend and human being and would do anything for the people i love; i couldnt dream of shutting out someone i care about.
and its not like theyd revel in the idea of doing it either, yet its seen as not just the only choice, but also as undoubtedly the right thing to do.
Your question: Faders. Why do we (pretend to for me) stay in?
It is for my own personal dignity. There is really only a handful of people that I have cared about for most of my life that are still JW's. I have longed to see them for so many years. All of us are getting older because, of course, there is no Big A coming. It is just a scare tactic. All of us, no matter what age, are destined for death. I, too, find our lives very precious. I have spent a lifetime, amongst cruel people. I have no cruelty in me. If I wrote a book about my life, nobody would want to read it. It would be just too sad. I believed in God, and that he would straighten all things out, and I would come out the happy victor. But no. That is not real life. I cannot undo the past. Your appeal was successful, yet you are marked.
WT/JW.org is cruel when they make the decision who is acceptable to talk to and who isn't. You have a sister? She is alive and close by so you can see her, talk to her, encourage and be friends with???
This is a first for me. Getting DF'd for a picture of your ear, next to your recently DF'd sister. lol
Maybe after a bit of time goes by, I will try harder to forget those people, my long ago friends. No one lives close by to me. I don't see them. They are just etched in my heart.
Para 8: The girl you liked, that turned your 'ear' in to get you DF'd, what are your feelings for her now? Does she live locally, go to your KHall? Do you see her often, or not anymore???
My heart goes out to you noonehome and to all of us who have had our lives, derailed is too nice a word, destroyed is not nice either, by the supposed people who say they are the direct link and voice (JW GB) to the god who they say is The God of Love and Tender Mercies... I call the God YHWH, the Israelite God of War and War Atrocities.
(((Hugs))) to you dear one. Don't do anything silly. Life is beautiful. Even if you have to go it alone.
LL
leaving the university with my degree!.
exams are finished and it's just a matter of days before i walk.. i was certainly stressed about doing this.
i'm older than my classmates and armageddon was sooooo close!
Oh Billy, I am so happy for you!
That is great news! Whichever company you went with, they have got a sure winner with you. You will have like minded people to talk with and associate with too. How's the golfing out there??? lol
Always good to hear from you Billy. Whenever you have a minute, give a shout out to us, your JWN Family.
Love and Hugs from my house, to yours.
I wish you well on your life's journey.
LL
so i have been doing a little light reading regarding the whack job rutherford and find out he had a son.
does anyone know if he had grandchildren etc?
if so, where are they?.
Thank you Blondie for posting Leolaia's work from 6 years ago.
I found out the above information through my own research, lol, and I had no clue there was a place like JWN that already knew about Rutherford's hypocritical life style. I started posting here 2 years ago, because I was so shocked and I thought nobody knew, and I, LoisLane was going to inform, lol, the world. lolololol At least, no one ever told me. I found out for myself.
@Love2BWorldly and @Rebel8, if you click on the above "Rutherford Exposed. The story of Berta and Bonnie" gathered public information by Leolaia, you will get an idea of what a lying, scoundrel that creep Rutherford was. Building a mansion during the Great Depression so he could live a millionaire lifestyle. What a creep!
LL